Written By Thomas Perez. January 9, 2014 at 8:53pm. Copyright 2014.
Leaving where we left off in Part Two of our Three Part study (which was Point #9) we continue with our study at Point #10…This part will deal with the remaining verses left off in Part Two.
10. Destroy the Body and Soul In Hell Forever/Perdition/Everlasting Punishment
Matthew 10:28 (Cr Luke 12:5)
I Timothy 6:9
Revelation 14:11, 19:19-21, 20:10-15
The Greek the word for “fire” here is “Pur” – which corresponds to SH4442 – which means lit or fig, spec lightening – fiery fire. There is nothing more to this meaning. This may sound disconcerting for Ultimate Reconciliationists. But according to Young’s Analytical Concordance and Vines Expository Dictionary of Greek and Hebrew Words, the SAME root word “Pur” is also used in ref to the positive: Here are the positives in the Greek…
1. We are baptized with the Holy Spirit and fire – Matt 3:11
2. The filling of the Holy Spirit (tongues is fire) – Acts 2:3
3. We are salted with fire – Mk 9:49
4. We are baptized with fire – Lk 3:16
5. Angel of fire (ref to the burning bush) – Acts 7:30
6. Heaping coals of fire on the head of your enemy if he is hungry and in need – Rom 12:20.
7. Saved by fire – I Cor 3:15
8. Angels are flames of fire – Heb 1:7
9. God is a consuming fire – Heb 12:29
10. Trials as a test of fire (trial) – I Pet 1:7
11. Jesus’ eyes are that of a flame of fire – Rev 1:14, 2:18 & 19:12
12. We are gold tried in fire – Rev 3:18
There are other positive verses, but we are only dealing with the verses that contain the word “fire’“
In reference to the Hebrew, there are five words which represent the word “fire.” But for our intent and purposes concerning this study we are concerned with the “one” out of the five. In Hebrew the word for fire (as in our focus concerning this study) is “esh” which means simply “fire” as opposed to “ur” in Isa 24:15, 31:9, 44:16, 47:14, Ezek 5:2 which means “light.” This doesn’t help. Moreover, “ur” is the same word used in Mal 3:2 – “Our God is a refiners fire”
Now we come to the negative. When the Greek “Pur” is used in its negative sense, we get the following…
Mark 9:38-48 – These verses was dealt with in Part 2
Luke 16:19-31 – These verses was dealt with in Part 2
II Thessalonians 1:7-12 – These verses was dealt with in Part 2. We are now left with…
For a further look into EVERY single verse containing the positive and negative in relation to this type of study please see Part One and Two of this study “An Unbiased Approach” – Parts One & Two. Also please see my other article; “Eon: An Indefinite Duration. As In Limited” – where the word “Everlasting” is examined.
So what gives? Either He has saved all, will save all, or He will be the fearful exclusive God spoken of earlier. We know morally that God is not subject to any form of morality. God is a moral (as discussed in another study of mine; Miracles and Healings: Faith Thinking, Delusion, or Factual Possibility?). And as such, He is not obligated to love (though it is said that He is love). So when a Universalist uses this word (love) in defense of God saving ALL eventually, it kind of sickens me to a certain degree. Love is only an attribute, an emotion. It wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for hate. They are demonstrating Cataphatic theology (the positive) rather than what He is not; the Apophatic theology (the negative). Perhaps the two oppositions (the positive and the negative) can be demonstrated (such as it is) through human reasoning and guidance of the Holy Spirit.
Since “ur” is used in Mal 3:2 “Our God is a refiners fire.” We must define the word “refine.” In Hebrew the word “tsaraph” is “to fuse” – lit or fig – to melt, pure, purge away, try. It would appear that it is the fusing of both together. It may be the ridding of both the positive and the negative. A constant of perfection (as we know it in the sense of the word) – without the positive or negative. Since the same word “tsaraph” and “ur” is used in the same conjunction; then in all likelihood, the meaning is a fusing. A fusing of the tormented.
The Greek word for torment is “basanizo” which means in Strong’s Hebrew (SH928) – pain, toil, loss, vex. In Young’s, the word is also “basanizo” – to try, test.
The positive (as in who is he that condemneth) and the “It is God who justifies,” is the Cataphatic. The negative (as in to melt, purify away, and try, and test) will merge with the positive to cancel (purge away) itself – a canceling of the self. Are we not commanded to do so already in Rom 12:1-2? It is the Apophatic. And while doing so try and test (as found in Young’s) what sort of work it (the heart) is. The duration of such may be the “lightening” spoken of in Luke 17:24. To “Pur” or a duration of an “aion” – as in the word – forever – with reference to “everlasting” (Greek – duration of age or ages) this may be in ref to the phrase Strong uses – toil, vex, pain. This is used in our Matt 10:28, 25:46, Lk 12:5.
Theological proof of this supposition of “fusing” may be found in the incarnation. When Christ became flesh, it is believed that He was very God of very God and very man of man through the Holy Spirit. So ergo, it can be assumed here that in the very same way that Christ Jesus took upon Himself the pain, toil, loss, vexing (as in Strong’s) and the trying and testing (as in Young’s) but yet without fault – He will provide us the same curtsey and duty. Is it not written that the Spirit worketh in us even now? Our position in Christ is one of Salvation for all humanity through grace and faith positionally – the hope of Augustine, Calvinism and others alike. Our (as in all of the humanities) growth or sanctification, if you will, is one of progressiveness – merging and fusing our new man within the old man – the flesh – it is the hope of Catholicism and Islam as demonstrated through the Roman sacraments and Islamic prayers and good works. Our Ultimate Reconciliation will be that which hast already begun 2000 years ago – where perfection will reach its goal – demonstrated by Pelagius and Arminianism (the fundamentalist view on freewill, and the Universalist view of Inclusiveness as opposed to Exclusiveness, etc).
Perfection is “telos” – SH5046 – SH5056 in Greek which means; to conclude, termination, resulting in ultimate purpose – as paid – a levy. We are told to compare it with 5411 “phoros” – which means; an individuals assessment. The assessment in all likelihood is the trying and testing in this life. Our virtues, if found, will be humanities faith, hope and love…they will stand the test of fire found in that lake. The justification of this is weighed upon that which Christ did and gave freely to all; salvation to all Humanity.
This may be the mystery solved – this should be enough for anybody – if not – you may be in a box of theological legalism. But you have a choice, you can always take the plunge (or in this case – the jump out of the box) yourself. Study to thyself approved. A workman that needeth not to be ashamed; rightly dividing the Word of Truth.