Posted By Thomas Perez. August 6, 2011 at 3:09am. Copyright 2011.
As promised, various deities (12 in all) will now be discussed. However, for a deeper study concerning some of these other deities, please read “Is Christianity Borrowed From Pagan Religions?” located at this site.
We Now Begin With Krishna.
Hindus believe that Krishna was the eighth “avatar” or incarnation of the god Vishnu – one of the Hindu deities in the Hindu trinity or the eighth avatar. The Encyclopedia Mythica says that he is also one of the most popular gods in Hinduism. He is often depicted in art as a child with blue skin and playing a flute. And in depictions of him as an adult, he appears very feminine-like. Hindu scriptures state that Krishna “appeared in all the fullness of his power and glory.” Krishna was born sometime between 900 and 1200 B.C. and his religious teachings can be found in the Bhagavad-Gita, one of the sacred texts in Hinduism. The karmic similarities between Jesus and the Hindu messiah named Krishna (1200 B.C.) are many. There over one hundred similarities between the Hindu and Christian saviors which could easily fill a volume. Some of these similarities are apocryphal which means their source comes from the extra-canonical scriptures of Hinduism. Many such “parallels” or apparent “similarities exist today. Almost every correlation between Krishna and Jesus can be traced to Kersey Graves, a 19th century author who believed Christianity was created from pagan myths. And more recently, D.M. Murdock – whose ideologies are strongly supported in the “Jesus Seminar Movement” (aka – Zeitgeist Movement)…though theirs is one of absolute denial in an historical Jesus.
Similarly, like D.M. Murdock, Swami Abhedananda; in his book ‘Great Saviours of the World’; page 20, he declares that there are many wonderful similarities between Krishna and Christ, and that the whole story of Krishna’s life and teachings are based upon the life sayings of Jesus the Christ, and that the Krishna cult of the Hindu’s did not exist before the first invasion of that country by early Christian missionaries. Furthermore, some of the followers of Christ were so astonished at finding in India a religion so near like their own that they could only account for it by supposing that the Devil, foreseeing the advent of the Saviour, originated a system of religion in advance of his just like it.
In the cases of the alleged “parallels” that Jesus has with several pagan deities (or non deities) like Horus and Buddha, Acharya Sanning – aka – D.M. Murdock also then makes the exact same claims about Krishna, saying that “The similarities between the Christian character and the Indian messiah are many.” This concept has been spreading since the 1800’s. And along with this concept are (as mentioned) the many “parallels” or apparent “similarities; that exist today. For example, one such similarity is that Krishna was born of a virgin.
Krishna was born of the Virgin Devaki (“Divine One”)
A virgin birth is never attributed to Krishna as his parents bore seven previous children. Furthermore, the virgin birth was not a new concept invented by Christians. The book of Isaiah (written about 700 B.C.) spoke of a Messiah who would be born of a virgin. This prophecy was in circulation 700 years before Jesus and at least 100 years before Krishna. (Isaiah 7:14) Critics claim Krishna was born to the virgin Maia but according to Hindu texts, he was the eighth son of Princess Devaki and her husband Vasudeva: “You have been born of the divine Devaki and Vasudeva for the protection of Brahma on earth.” Mahabharata Bk 12, XLVIII.
In her footnotes, Ms. Murdock tries to explain this fact away by saying that in Hinduism, Devaki “was considered to have had a miraculous conception.” The problem here is that, with exception of “Jesus-Myth” propaganda, I could find no references that substantiate that this is true. But even if Hinduism taught that Krishna’s birth was miraculous (which it does not), that still wouldn’t explain away the fact that Devaki was not a virgin because we know she had other children before Krishna.
Moreover, traditionally, the authorship of the Mahabharata is attributed to Vyasa. There have been many attempts to unravel its historical growth and compositional layers. The oldest preserved parts of the text are not thought to be appreciably older than around 400 BC, though the origins of the story probably fall between the 8th and 9th centuries BC. The text probably reached its final form by the early Gupta period (ca. 4th c. AD). The title may be translated as “the great tale of the Bha-rata dynasty”. According to the Mahabharata itself, the tale is extended from a shorter version of 24,000 verses called simply Bha-rata. (Van Buitenen; The Mahabharata – 1; The Book of the Beginning. Introduction (The Encyclopedia of Indian Literature Vol 2)
It would seem that Hinduism copied the story of the Virgin birth from Christianity and inserted it into latter apocryphal writings. Perhaps this is due to the 1st Apostolic Church started by the Apostle Thomas, who later was mytared in India. Similarly, the celebrated French missionary and traveler, Evarist-Regis Hucv, who made a journey of several thousand miles through China and Tibet, stated, “If we addressed a Mogul or Tibetan this question, ‘Who is Krishna?’ the reply was instantly ‘The savior of men.” According to Robert Cheyne, “All that converting the Hindoos to Christianity does for them is to change the object of their worship from Krishna to Christ.” Appleton’s Cyclopedia says this about the teachings of Krishna: “Its correspondence with the New Testament is indeed striking.”
Again, the evidence is irrefutable. The copycat (or borrowing) correlation between the two was injected into the teachings of Hinduism by its followers, thus the apparent confusion. The whole crust of the matter is this….“Which came first, the chicken or the egg”. Which story came first, Christ or Krishna? If we were to answer that question from a Christian’s perspective, the obvious answer would be Krishna. But if we were to answer that question from the Judeo – Christian perspective, then the obvious answer would be the Christ of the Old Testament fulfilling the New Testament; the hen laying the egg, giving birth to the New Covenant.
Another similarity is that Krishna’s father was a carpenter.
Wrong. – His father Vasudeva was a nobleman, not a carpenter. Besides, considering the fact that Devaki was a princess, if he was a carpenter, then he would never have been able to marry her. Moreover, according to India Parenting.com, “old King Ugrasena of Mathura had two children, Prince Kamsa and Princess Devaki. While King Ugrasena was a good king, Prince Kamsa was a ruthless tyrant. Now Princess Devaki was to wed a nobleman named Vasudeva”. “Thou art the most beloved of Nanda, the Cow-herd” Bhagavata, Bk 8, I, pg 743
1. He was born at a time when his family had to travel to pay the yearly tax.
2. His birth was attended by angels, wise men and shepherds, and he was presented with gifts.
3. He was persecuted by a tyrant who ordered the slaughter of thousands of infants who feared that the divine child would supplant his kingdom. Bhagavata, Bk 4, XXII:7
4. His father was warned by a heavenly voice to flee the tyrant who sought the death of the child. The child was then saved by friends who fled with them in the night to a distant country. When the tyrant learned that his attempt to kill the child failed, he issued a decree that all the infants in the area be put to death. Writing about Krishna in the eighteenth century, Sir William Jones stated, “In the Sanskrit dictionary, compiled more than two thousand years ago, we have the whole history of the incarnate deity, born of a virgin, and miraculously escaping in infancy from the reigning tyrant of his country.” (Asiatic Researches, Vol. I, p. 273).
5. The Bible states that Jesus and family fled to Egypt afterward to escape from King Herod. According to the Christian apocryphal text “the Gospel of the Infancy,” the family traveled to Maturea, Egypt. Krishna was born in Maturea, India, hundreds of years earlier. Bhagavata, Bk 4, I:4-5
6. He was baptized in the River Ganges.
7. The missions of Krishna and Jesus were the same – the salvation of humanity.
8. Krishna worked miracles and wonders such as raising the dead and healing lepers, the deaf and the blind.
9. Krishna used parables to teach the people about charity and love.
10. Jesus taught his disciples about the possibility of removing a mountain by faith. According to tradition,
11. Krishna raised Mount Goverdhen above his disciples to protect his worshipers from the wrath of Indra.
12. “He lived poor and he loved the poor.”
13. Krishna washed the feet of the Brahmins and transfigured before his disciples.
14. Krishna’s teachings and Jesus’ teachings were very similar. The celebrated French missionary and traveler, Evarist-Regis Hucv, who made a journey of several thousand miles through China and Tibet, stated, “If we addressed a Mogul or Tibetan this question, ‘Who is Krishna?’ the reply was instantly ‘The savior of men.” According to Robert Cheyne, “All that converting the Hindoos to Christianity does for them is to change the object of their worship from Krishna to Christ.” Appleton’s Cyclopedia says this about the teachings of Krishna: “Its correspondence with the New Testament is indeed striking.”
15. There is an extra-canonical Hindu tradition which states that Krishna was crucified. According to some traditions, Krishna died on a tree or was crucified between two thieves. Mahabharata, Book 16, 4
16. He descended to hell, rose bodily from the dead, and ascended to heaven which was witnessed by many.
17. Krishna is called the “shepherd god” and “lord of lords,” and was considered “the redeemer, firstborn, sin bearer, liberator, universal Word.”
18. He is the second person of the trinity, and proclaimed himself the “resurrection” and the “way to the Father.”
19. He was considered the “beginning, the middle and the end,” (“alpha and omega”), as well as being omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent.
20. His disciples bestowed upon him the title “Jezeus,” meaning “pure essence.”
21. Krishna is to return again riding a white horse to do battle with the “prince of evil,” who will desolate the Earth.
The above similarities and parallels are all to familiar don’t you think? Yet, have you ever heard of the word ‘plagiarism’? I’m sure that you have. But in order to establish a burden of proof pertaining to plagiarism one must ascertain copyright authenticity. In this case that is not to difficult if one knows the dates, times periods, and cultural influences that may have caused such similarities.
To begin my burden of proof, I present the facts.
1. According to what we have learned, Krishna was born sometime between 900 and 1200 BC., (though not one outside source besides the Hindu writings can verify this) but for the sake of this discussion; let us assume that he was indeed of a historical fact. His birth will place him near or about the time of Samuel. Jewish tradition places Samuel as the author of the 1st part of the book of Samuel (chs 1-24), and that the prophet Nathan and the Seer Gad, were the authors of the remainder (chs 25 – II Sam) thus, dating the books 1100 – 1010 BC. It is obvious that at least some parts of the book was written after the death of Samuel (25:1, 28:3), and perhaps even after the division of the monarchy (27:6). Moreover, the author used documents dating back to David’s reign or shortly after (1025 – 900 BC).
2. This will also place Krishna during the time of the Psalms that were written by David.
The Psalms were written about 1100 – 420 BC. The Various collections pertaining to the book of Psalms were written and collected between the 12th & 5th cent. It was during the time of Ezra, that the book of Psalms, as we know it today was completed. The historical books of the Bible speak of David’s considerable accomplishments as a musician, singer, and composer of poems. (I Sam 16:19-23, 18:10, II Sam 1:17-27, 23:1-7, I Chron 29:10-15). Moreover, one of David’s Psalms is recorded in II Sam 22 & reappears with only slight variation as Psa 18. Parts of the melody that David presented to Asaph in 1 Chron 16:8-36 are taken from Psa 105:1-15, Psa 96, and Psa 106:1, 47-48. Thus, the connection between David and the Psalms is well documented.
Of course David is not the only composer of the Psalms. Others include: Contemporaries of whom he put in charge of worship in Jerusalem: Ethan, Herman, and Aspah. Moses, Solomon, The sons of Korah, Deborah, (Judges 5), and Hannah (I Sam 2) all wrote the Psalms as well. However, the composers of many of the Psalms remain anonymous. Like the Pentateuch, the five books of Moses, the book of Psalms is arranged in five sections: Book 1 (Psa 1-41), Book 2 (42-71), Book 3 (73-89), Book 4 (90-106), and Book 5 (107-150). Book 1 & 2 covers the Davidic Psalms. Book 3 covers the Psalms of Asaph and the sons of Korah. Books 4 and 5 include anonymous Psalms, along with a few by David and others.
3. Or Krishna may have been born during reign of Solomon. The life of Solomon can be found in I Kings & II Kings chapters 1-11:41 covers the life of Solomon. Solomon’s reign is from 970 B.C. to 930 BC (11:41). It also covers the divided kingdoms from 12:1-22:53.
As we can see, the dates involved, all correlate to specific time frames. By this time, there were many messianic prophecies concerning a deliverer, such as the following:
He was to be born of a woman’s seed.
He was to bruise Satan’s head
He was to be a priest after the order of Melchizedek.
Gen 14:18-20, Psa 110:4
He was to be descended from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob resulting in all the earth
Gen 12:3, 18:18, 22:18, 28:14
He was to be a Prophet like Moses.
Deut 18:15-19 (Not Joshua – Deut 34:10) Jn 1:45, Acts 3:20-23
He was to be from the seed of David and heir to The Throne of David.
II Sam 7:12-13
He would be David’s Lord.
He was to be God’s Son.
Psa 2:7, Pro 30:4
He was to be God & Lord.
Psa 2:7, 45:6-7, 110:1 (There are ton’s of verses on this. But for the sake of this discussion, I’m only covering Scriptural citations from 1200-900 BC).
He was to have a Name.
He was to be from the tribe of Judah.
He was to become The Foundation Stone of which the builders have rejected.
He was to gather all people.
Now can it be possible that such Scriptural citations found its way into the regions of India? According to the Saint Mark Taper Foundation, some Jews arrived (In India) during the time of the Kingdom of Judah, others are seen by some as descendants of Israel’s Ten Lost Tribes (Who are the Jews of India? – The S. Mark Taper Foundation imprint in Jewish studies. University of California Press. 2000. p. 26).
Moreover according to The Shengold Jewish Encyclopedia pg 125 By Mordecai Schreiber, “The oldest of the Indian Jewish communities is in Cochin. The traditional account is that traders from Judea arrived in the city of Cochin, Kerala, in 562 BC, and that more Jews came as exiles from Israel in the year 70 C.E. after the destruction of the Second Temple” The Cochin Jews arrived in India 2,500 years ago and settled down in Kerala as traders.
Other arrivals include: The Bene Israel who arrived in the state of Maharashtra 2,100 years ago. The Baghdadi Jews arrived in the city Mumbai from Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan, and other Arab countries about 250 years ago. The Bnei Menashe are Mizo and Kuki tribesmen in Manipur and Mizoram who claim descent from the tribe of Manasseh also arrived. The Bene Ephraim (also called “Telugu Jews”) also arrived. They are a small group who speak Telugu; their observance of Judaism dates to 1981.
Yet we do understand that it is said that Hinduism is considered an eternal religion which is known to have no beginning and no end. It is supposed to be founded somewhere around 3200-2500 BC. According to the great epic ‘Mahabharata’, the more approximate date for this is 3102. Others suggest that Hinduism had its origins in such a remote past that it cannot be traced to any one individual. Some scholars believe that Hinduism must have existed even in circa 10,000 BC and that the earliest of the Hindu scriptures – The Rig Veda – was composed well before 6,500 BC However, this is debatable. And since there are no criteria for validated authenticity, it must be ruled out.
According to Brockington (1998, p. 26) The oldest preserved parts of the text are not thought to be appreciably older than around 400 BC, though the origins of the story probably fall between the 8th and 9th centuries BC. And similarly, according to Van Buitenen; The Mahabharata – 1; The Book of the Beginning. An Introduction; The oldest preserved parts of the text are not thought to be appreciably older than around 400 BC, though the origins of the story probably fall between the 8th and 9th centuries BC. The text probably reached its final form by the early Gupta period (ca. 4th c. AD). This places the book between the times of the divided kingdom of Israel after Solomon, (9th Cent BC) and the conquest of Israel under the Neo-Assyrian Empire during reign of Jerboam and Pekah in 732-721 BC (8th Cent BC).
Contemporaries of this era include: HOSEA 8th cent. 792 – 699 BC., JONAH 8th cent 770 – 750 B.C., AMOS 8th cent 763-750 BC., MICAH 8th & 7th cent. 742 – 699 BC., and ISAIAH 8th & 7th cent. 740 – 681 BC.
Since the dispersed of the Northern tribes of Israel found their way into India, it is therefore not far fetched to consider that their writings (including the writings of Isaiah) and oral traditions found its way into the Indian culture, greatly influencing them; thus the correlation and similarities commenced! Moreover, many writings from the Mahabharata are seen to correlate with the minor prophets and one major prophet, in particular; the prophet Isaiah.
According to ‘The Nelson Study Bible’, “Critical scholars have concluded that there were two or three different authors for the book of Isaiah. The first being called the so called Proto-Isaiah (or “first Isaiah”) covering chapters 1-39. The second is called Deutero-Isaiah (or “second Isaiah”), which covers Isaiah’s message to the discouraged exiles in Babylon-chapters 40-55. The rest of the book, chapters 56-66 addresses the controversies that surrounded the postexilic community in the second half of the 6th cent BC. Thus, this last section is called the Trito-Isaiah (or “third Isaiah”) (109).
They (the Indian people) probably heard of such wonderful prophecies like the prophetic message of the virgin birth, the Messiahs divinity, etc; as found in the writings of Isaiah (chs 1-39) either by the 10 tribes sharing their writings or by word of mouth. It would appear that they (the Indian people) were able to see the larger picture, while the 10 tribes were blind and given a certificate of divorce from the Almighty due to their disobedience (Deut 29:15-29:14-15).
The 10 tribes constantly broke God’s commandments, thus they were scattered after the Assyrian crisis – never to come back – they assembled into the four corners of the earth. Overtime they became known as the ‘goyam’ (gentiles) as fulfillment of Genesis 48. The Southern kingdom was taken captive by the Babylonian empire – thus they realized that they had broken the covenantal commandments of God & they repented. Due to this act of repentance God brought them back into the promised land, upon which the 2nd Jewish temple was built – even in troublous times.
In all probability, the Indian people (though of a different belief system) considered the prophecy of a virgin birth highly probable and profitable to their own faith and thus incorporated it into their belief system. Which later, due to Christian missionary endeavors, were added very accurate; even almost similar, accounts in what now appears in their apocryphal writings (writing’s after the Mahabharata) which were written sometime after the prophets and later after the founding of the 1st Apostolic church in India by the Apostle Thomas. Tradition states that St. Thomas preached in “India” and his Christianity was widely spread in both East and West and is to be found in such writers as Ephraem Syrus, Ambrose, Paulinus, Jerome, and, later Gregory of Tours and others.
Next to Be Covered Is Buddhism In Part 5